Comments on: Seth Godin is Wrong — Here are the Right ways to leave an Online tip. http://www.trafficandconversion.com/seth-godin-is-wrong-here-are-the-right-ways-to-leave-an-online-tip/ Internet Traffic, Conversion, Testing and Techniques Wed, 07 Dec 2011 01:21:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Luke http://www.trafficandconversion.com/seth-godin-is-wrong-here-are-the-right-ways-to-leave-an-online-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-10966 Luke Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:02:53 +0000 http://www.trafficandconversion.com/?p=145#comment-10966 Interesting... yeah the idea of clicking ads just to tip a webmaster is kinda weird... is that the kind of suggestion that might get the attention of Google? Especially since it probably goes against their adsense terms of service some how (I might be wrong) Either way, great discussion and great ideas on how to provide an avenue for 'tipping' <abbr><em>Lukes last blog post..<a href="http://smartcomputeruse.com/2008/09/15/brad-pitt-internet-risk-watch-out/" rel="nofollow">Brad Pitt Internet Risk - Watch Out!</a></em></abbr> Interesting… yeah the idea of clicking ads just to tip a webmaster is kinda weird… is that the kind of suggestion that might get the attention of Google? Especially since it probably goes against their adsense terms of service some how (I might be wrong)

Either way, great discussion and great ideas on how to provide an avenue for ‘tipping’

Lukes last blog post..Brad Pitt Internet Risk – Watch Out!

]]> By: Greg Melton http://www.trafficandconversion.com/seth-godin-is-wrong-here-are-the-right-ways-to-leave-an-online-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-10423 Greg Melton Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:34:13 +0000 http://www.trafficandconversion.com/?p=145#comment-10423 How about CPD (cost per duration) as a viable alternative to CPC, CPA, CPM? We've developed a widget which allows anyone to sponsor your content. This can be used in the exact same way as Seth is talking about. If you'd like to tip a site then upload an image and set an amount. Your sponsor runs for 30-days and there is no click-fraud with our system. Everyone wins. The publisher gets an alternative revenue stream and the sponsor receives promotion, unlimited impressions, and possible click-thrus for 30-days. Great thread! How about CPD (cost per duration) as a viable alternative to CPC, CPA, CPM? We’ve developed a widget which allows anyone to sponsor your content. This can be used in the exact same way as Seth is talking about. If you’d like to tip a site then upload an image and set an amount. Your sponsor runs for 30-days and there is no click-fraud with our system. Everyone wins. The publisher gets an alternative revenue stream and the sponsor receives promotion, unlimited impressions, and possible click-thrus for 30-days. Great thread!

]]> By: David Carter http://www.trafficandconversion.com/seth-godin-is-wrong-here-are-the-right-ways-to-leave-an-online-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-10396 David Carter Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:00:05 +0000 http://www.trafficandconversion.com/?p=145#comment-10396 I agree with you Mark Seth's suggestion in my view is rather like suggesting you take the wallet out of the pocket of the guy in front of you and put it in the collection plate <abbr><em>David Carters last blog post..<a href="http://www.christstudy.net/blog/reviews/the-faith-of-barack-obama/" rel="nofollow">The Faith of Barack Obama</a></em></abbr> I agree with you Mark

Seth’s suggestion in my view is rather like suggesting you take the wallet out of the pocket of the guy in front of you and put it in the collection plate

David Carters last blog post..The Faith of Barack Obama

]]> By: Jamie http://www.trafficandconversion.com/seth-godin-is-wrong-here-are-the-right-ways-to-leave-an-online-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-10380 Jamie Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:28:03 +0000 http://www.trafficandconversion.com/?p=145#comment-10380 Hi Mark, Enjoyed the read and am looking forward to hearing more. I like your "buy me a cup of coffee" idea (or whoever had the idea - first I've seen it). A little bit of devil's advocate though: consumers (in this case, readers) will do whatever they want. The system currently allows them to "tip" by clicking an ad. Shaming the consumers to not frivolously click ads is not the road to progress. Progress is made through ongoing exploitation and continuous improvement. Let them break it - that's the catalyst for better things to come. Jamie Voorhies www.marketingfinanceobama.com Hi Mark,

Enjoyed the read and am looking forward to hearing more. I like your “buy me a cup of coffee” idea (or whoever had the idea – first I’ve seen it).

A little bit of devil’s advocate though: consumers (in this case, readers) will do whatever they want. The system currently allows them to “tip” by clicking an ad. Shaming the consumers to not frivolously click ads is not the road to progress. Progress is made through ongoing exploitation and continuous improvement. Let them break it – that’s the catalyst for better things to come.

Jamie Voorhies
http://www.marketingfinanceobama.com

]]> By: Manoj http://www.trafficandconversion.com/seth-godin-is-wrong-here-are-the-right-ways-to-leave-an-online-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-10364 Manoj Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:02:38 +0000 http://www.trafficandconversion.com/?p=145#comment-10364 Mark, Some good points raised by you-- and excellent suggestions on how readers can reward content creators for great content. However, I get the feeling that the underlying presumption is that Seth Godin is referring to pay per click ads [such as those displayed by the Google Adsense program], which does not seem to the case. I read the post by Mr.Godin and there is no explicit reference to the type of advertising. If you take out the cost model for the advertising, then may be -- just may be-- there is merit to what Mr.Godin says. Afterall, publishers have often explicitly requested their readers to "visit" their sponsors/ advertisers since ages, and note that this is deemed quite acceptable in a non Pay Per Click advertising model. I'm not suggesting that Mr.Godin is correct in this instance, but I just feel there is possibly another side to it. Mark,
Some good points raised by you– and excellent suggestions on how readers can reward content creators for great content.
However, I get the feeling that the underlying presumption is that Seth Godin is referring to pay per click ads [such as those displayed by the Google Adsense program], which does not seem to the case. I read the post by Mr.Godin and there is no explicit reference to the type of advertising.
If you take out the cost model for the advertising, then may be — just may be– there is merit to what Mr.Godin says. Afterall, publishers have often explicitly requested their readers to “visit” their sponsors/ advertisers since ages, and note that this is deemed quite acceptable in a non Pay Per Click advertising model.
I’m not suggesting that Mr.Godin is correct in this instance, but I just feel there is possibly another side to it.

]]> By: netkickstart http://www.trafficandconversion.com/seth-godin-is-wrong-here-are-the-right-ways-to-leave-an-online-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-10361 netkickstart Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:20:20 +0000 http://www.trafficandconversion.com/?p=145#comment-10361 I wrote likewise on my blog that Godin's proposal amounts to stealing from the advertiser. It's a different story if you actually intend to purchase, but if you're just clicking PPC ads to leave a tip... <abbr><em>netkickstarts last blog post..<a href="http://netkickstart.com/blog/2008/08/23/seth-godins-tip-jar/" rel="nofollow">Seth Godin’s Tip Jar</a></em></abbr> I wrote likewise on my blog that Godin’s proposal amounts to stealing from the advertiser. It’s a different story if you actually intend to purchase, but if you’re just clicking PPC ads to leave a tip…

netkickstarts last blog post..Seth Godin’s Tip Jar

]]> By: Ronny http://www.trafficandconversion.com/seth-godin-is-wrong-here-are-the-right-ways-to-leave-an-online-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-10355 Ronny Sun, 24 Aug 2008 07:34:00 +0000 http://www.trafficandconversion.com/?p=145#comment-10355 Mark, you're absolutely right here. Seth's idea is like saying that when you're out with some friends at a pub and the barmaid has spoiled you and you want to thank her, you should just take your friend's wallet and leave her a tip. 'Show your appreciation'. Great post, I have especially liked suggestion number 3 - It's the most common and most simple one for anyone, not just people who has blogs, participate on web 2.0 sites, has extra money etc. - Just leave meaningful comments. It's a start. Mark, you’re absolutely right here. Seth’s idea is like saying that when you’re out with some friends at a pub and the barmaid has spoiled you and you want to thank her, you should just take your friend’s wallet and leave her a tip. ‘Show your appreciation’.

Great post, I have especially liked suggestion number 3 – It’s the most common and most simple one for anyone, not just people who has blogs, participate on web 2.0 sites, has extra money etc. – Just leave meaningful comments. It’s a start.

]]> By: Peg http://www.trafficandconversion.com/seth-godin-is-wrong-here-are-the-right-ways-to-leave-an-online-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-10350 Peg Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:43:18 +0000 http://www.trafficandconversion.com/?p=145#comment-10350 You and Jeff Walker were wise to catch this and nip it in the bud. None of us want to run afoul of Google! I'm not familiar with Seth Godin, but I do know what it is like to "rush" through a post. No doubt a seasoned marketer to be on a first name basis with you, he probably was making a flip comment and had no idea of the storm he was creating. <abbr><em>Pegs last blog post..<a href="http://www.personal-business-protection.org/index.html" rel="nofollow">Aug 22, Work From Home Safely</a></em></abbr> You and Jeff Walker were wise to catch this and nip it in the bud. None of us want to run afoul of Google!

I’m not familiar with Seth Godin, but I do know what it is like to “rush” through a post. No doubt a seasoned marketer to be on a first name basis with you, he probably was making a flip comment and had no idea of the storm he was creating.

Pegs last blog post..Aug 22, Work From Home Safely

]]> By: Ads are NOT the new tip-jar « Spot.Us - Community Funded Reporting http://www.trafficandconversion.com/seth-godin-is-wrong-here-are-the-right-ways-to-leave-an-online-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-10343 Ads are NOT the new tip-jar « Spot.Us - Community Funded Reporting Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:47:55 +0000 http://www.trafficandconversion.com/?p=145#comment-10343 [...] thoughts here. [...] [...] thoughts here. [...]

]]> By: Seth Godin Apologizes | Traffic and Conversion http://www.trafficandconversion.com/seth-godin-is-wrong-here-are-the-right-ways-to-leave-an-online-tip/comment-page-1/#comment-10341 Seth Godin Apologizes | Traffic and Conversion Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:38:53 +0000 http://www.trafficandconversion.com/?p=145#comment-10341 [...] Kudos to Seth…who also posted a comment on my prior post. [...] [...] Kudos to Seth…who also posted a comment on my prior post. [...]

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