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		<title>By: Malcolm Patten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malcolm Patten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.  I think it has been said before, above, that a short bio of one&#039;s business and url&#039;s together with list size, preferably segmented into topics, would do the trick.

Mark must know of a simple script that would handle this on auto.  A dating site script would be ideal.  We should then be able to cruise the bio&#039;s and select our partner or partners.  Dating sites automatically protect email addresses and registration would eliminate (Most) spammers.

Since the only people to learn about this service would be on Marks list, the likelihood of abuse is virtually eliminated.  To further enhance things, Mark&#039;s JV partners may wish to donate parts of their lists too.  The two potential ListMates (There is a suggested title!) would have to agree to list sharing in order to maintain list integrity and the list owner would have to do the broadcast because he or she has probably stated that they will never sell, rent or share their list with anyone else.

Mark&#039;s ListBuildingCooperativeTEAM (Together Everyone Achieves More) could gather pace.  It could even get as popular as the Warrior Forum.

Warmly,

Malcolm Patten</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  I think it has been said before, above, that a short bio of one&#8217;s business and url&#8217;s together with list size, preferably segmented into topics, would do the trick.</p>
<p>Mark must know of a simple script that would handle this on auto.  A dating site script would be ideal.  We should then be able to cruise the bio&#8217;s and select our partner or partners.  Dating sites automatically protect email addresses and registration would eliminate (Most) spammers.</p>
<p>Since the only people to learn about this service would be on Marks list, the likelihood of abuse is virtually eliminated.  To further enhance things, Mark&#8217;s JV partners may wish to donate parts of their lists too.  The two potential ListMates (There is a suggested title!) would have to agree to list sharing in order to maintain list integrity and the list owner would have to do the broadcast because he or she has probably stated that they will never sell, rent or share their list with anyone else.</p>
<p>Mark&#8217;s ListBuildingCooperativeTEAM (Together Everyone Achieves More) could gather pace.  It could even get as popular as the Warrior Forum.</p>
<p>Warmly,</p>
<p>Malcolm Patten</p>
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		<title>By: Collette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Collette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark - I have an idea that I think could help many folks here. I have sent you an email w/ subject line &quot;Getting Traffic&quot;.

Let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8211; I have an idea that I think could help many folks here. I have sent you an email w/ subject line &#8220;Getting Traffic&#8221;.</p>
<p>Let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: John Horner</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Horner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark

Your concept is good, however I&#039;m thinking that rather than attempting to just exchange traffic for a particular niche, it might be more useful to create a space where people can share (traffic)ideas that have atually worked for them, and will work for a variety of niche markets. This would be a case of real people sharing what works in the real life of online entrapeneurs, not another guru selling another &quot;shovel to the miners&quot;. This would also open the opportunity for people to connect one-on-one to share ideas, strategies, critiques, etc without the fear of giving away their edge to the competition. I agree with you that the pie is very large, and I have indeed developed one relationship like this with a guy in Arizona (I&#039;m in Florida), and it brings the missing human element back to the impersonal inet world.

I have sorted through alot of bogus info in the last four months to narrow down the actual resourse to run a successful online business, and Mark, you are one of four that I have found to give way more value than could be expected. 

Thanks,

John Horner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark</p>
<p>Your concept is good, however I&#8217;m thinking that rather than attempting to just exchange traffic for a particular niche, it might be more useful to create a space where people can share (traffic)ideas that have atually worked for them, and will work for a variety of niche markets. This would be a case of real people sharing what works in the real life of online entrapeneurs, not another guru selling another &#8220;shovel to the miners&#8221;. This would also open the opportunity for people to connect one-on-one to share ideas, strategies, critiques, etc without the fear of giving away their edge to the competition. I agree with you that the pie is very large, and I have indeed developed one relationship like this with a guy in Arizona (I&#8217;m in Florida), and it brings the missing human element back to the impersonal inet world.</p>
<p>I have sorted through alot of bogus info in the last four months to narrow down the actual resourse to run a successful online business, and Mark, you are one of four that I have found to give way more value than could be expected. </p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>John Horner</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 07:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the words of the Bard

Traffic&#039;s what I want what I really really want - send me traffic! Thats what I want

I am watching this space Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the words of the Bard</p>
<p>Traffic&#8217;s what I want what I really really want &#8211; send me traffic! Thats what I want</p>
<p>I am watching this space Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Clyo Beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clyo Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it seems like a membership site on which people have the opportunity to connect might work.

You&#039;d have to have CATEGORIES. People could sign up and identify their websites under categories.

Health/Fitness

Oh, gosh I&#039;m tired I can&#039;t think besides which you know the categories for niche markets better than I do. 

I just know it would drive me crazy to have to try and sort through two hundred different sites to find someone compatible with my niche. 

So if I logged on, for instance, I would be looking for people with websites in the niche of spirituality to eventually do a launch for my product. In the meantime, I&#039;d check it out and do a little e-mail to my tiny list on what that site had to offer.

So instead of exchanging links, we&#039;d be exchanging a promise to send the other person&#039;s URL to our list. The same marketing rules apply: the site should have something free or content rich to check out to justify telling people to check it out and/or to get a decent opt-in rate. 

It makes me think of Clickbank where people go to pick and choose the ads they want to put on their sites. We&#039;d be picking traffic builder buddies - baby affiliates in a way.

A site owner would have to prepare a brief description and say what the site was, what was offered, if the site is content rich, has a squeeze page, is just a sales page - whatever. A URL that can be clicked upon is a necessity to quickly assess the site. 

~~~~~~~

Regarding what Connie wrote about losing excitement and needing people. It would be good to make &quot;friends&quot; on a forum. 

But I will tell you, Jeff Walker set us up with a master mind group of 6 people and mine has, basically, dissolved. People are so busy; they don&#039;t even have time to ask questions. A forum is great if you&#039;re up and running and tweaking. But if you don&#039;t have a product for sale yet and the money&#039;s just going out for Aweber, etc. the name of the game is &quot;Frantic&quot;. So I like the idea, but I don&#039;t know how much I&#039;d participate right now. 



I don&#039;t know - it could make for incestuous lists. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it seems like a membership site on which people have the opportunity to connect might work.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d have to have CATEGORIES. People could sign up and identify their websites under categories.</p>
<p>Health/Fitness</p>
<p>Oh, gosh I&#8217;m tired I can&#8217;t think besides which you know the categories for niche markets better than I do. </p>
<p>I just know it would drive me crazy to have to try and sort through two hundred different sites to find someone compatible with my niche. </p>
<p>So if I logged on, for instance, I would be looking for people with websites in the niche of spirituality to eventually do a launch for my product. In the meantime, I&#8217;d check it out and do a little e-mail to my tiny list on what that site had to offer.</p>
<p>So instead of exchanging links, we&#8217;d be exchanging a promise to send the other person&#8217;s URL to our list. The same marketing rules apply: the site should have something free or content rich to check out to justify telling people to check it out and/or to get a decent opt-in rate. </p>
<p>It makes me think of Clickbank where people go to pick and choose the ads they want to put on their sites. We&#8217;d be picking traffic builder buddies &#8211; baby affiliates in a way.</p>
<p>A site owner would have to prepare a brief description and say what the site was, what was offered, if the site is content rich, has a squeeze page, is just a sales page &#8211; whatever. A URL that can be clicked upon is a necessity to quickly assess the site. </p>
<p>~~~~~~~</p>
<p>Regarding what Connie wrote about losing excitement and needing people. It would be good to make &#8220;friends&#8221; on a forum. </p>
<p>But I will tell you, Jeff Walker set us up with a master mind group of 6 people and mine has, basically, dissolved. People are so busy; they don&#8217;t even have time to ask questions. A forum is great if you&#8217;re up and running and tweaking. But if you don&#8217;t have a product for sale yet and the money&#8217;s just going out for Aweber, etc. the name of the game is &#8220;Frantic&#8221;. So I like the idea, but I don&#8217;t know how much I&#8217;d participate right now. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know &#8211; it could make for incestuous lists. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Delores Darden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delores Darden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,

I&#039;ve been reading the various comments while checking out most of the sites.  I feel kind of out of place because it appears that no one comes close to fragrances.  If the gentlemen will visit my site and buy a designer cologne and the ladies buy a designer perfume, I would have a fair amount of traffic. -:)  Traffic is one thing and a sale is another.  I have a copy of your Landing Pages and Perry Marshall&#039;s Adwords Guide. Maybe one day I will (land) in the right place.  I use Google Adwords, but not as much as I would like.  My advertising cost is more than my profits.
I really don&#039;t like forums.
I am writing this comment because you, Mark, always give me food for thought through your newletters.
I am paying attention and will never give up.

Thanks for help you are not even aware of giving.

Delores Darden</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading the various comments while checking out most of the sites.  I feel kind of out of place because it appears that no one comes close to fragrances.  If the gentlemen will visit my site and buy a designer cologne and the ladies buy a designer perfume, I would have a fair amount of traffic. -:)  Traffic is one thing and a sale is another.  I have a copy of your Landing Pages and Perry Marshall&#8217;s Adwords Guide. Maybe one day I will (land) in the right place.  I use Google Adwords, but not as much as I would like.  My advertising cost is more than my profits.<br />
I really don&#8217;t like forums.<br />
I am writing this comment because you, Mark, always give me food for thought through your newletters.<br />
I am paying attention and will never give up.</p>
<p>Thanks for help you are not even aware of giving.</p>
<p>Delores Darden</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Gonzalez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl Gonzalez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not very familiar with podpress...but I DO know WordPress and your blog looks a lot like it.  Did you know you can have a membership site on a wordpress blog?  That way people have to log-in and that&#039;s how you can be sure it&#039;s for YOUR community.  You could do a sub-domain called members.trafficandconversion.com and host it there.  Could be a great new draw for you Mark since you seem to be the only one willing to step P to it :-)

I think it&#039;s a wonderful idea...and I also believe you can password protect areas on forums so those are 2 ways to consider.  You don&#039;t need to link the forum on your frontpage...just have people join a special list so they get that info on where it is located.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not very familiar with podpress&#8230;but I DO know WordPress and your blog looks a lot like it.  Did you know you can have a membership site on a wordpress blog?  That way people have to log-in and that&#8217;s how you can be sure it&#8217;s for YOUR community.  You could do a sub-domain called members.trafficandconversion.com and host it there.  Could be a great new draw for you Mark since you seem to be the only one willing to step P to it :-)</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a wonderful idea&#8230;and I also believe you can password protect areas on forums so those are 2 ways to consider.  You don&#8217;t need to link the forum on your frontpage&#8230;just have people join a special list so they get that info on where it is located.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Stolmaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Stolmaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings Mark and everyone;
I am enjoying the way this &quot;project&quot; is being discussed in the open like this. I appreciate you Mark for trying to give your subscribers better content and solve their problems.
It seems clear to me that one of the best ways to get great traffic is to find someone who already has a list of targeted customers in a nice related to mine and get them to refer them to my site (a glowing endorsement would also help!).
My question is how to find those folks and how to approach them in a way that would interest them in referring that traffic. 
IMHO, A huge directory or forum of lots of folks with all different niches and subniches may be useful if a few of them are related to mine. But if none of them has much traffic, that wouldn&#039;t be much help.
I guess it would depend on how much participation you could get and if any of the participants were not totally new and without any of their own traffic.
Regards,
Neil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings Mark and everyone;<br />
I am enjoying the way this &#8220;project&#8221; is being discussed in the open like this. I appreciate you Mark for trying to give your subscribers better content and solve their problems.<br />
It seems clear to me that one of the best ways to get great traffic is to find someone who already has a list of targeted customers in a nice related to mine and get them to refer them to my site (a glowing endorsement would also help!).<br />
My question is how to find those folks and how to approach them in a way that would interest them in referring that traffic.<br />
IMHO, A huge directory or forum of lots of folks with all different niches and subniches may be useful if a few of them are related to mine. But if none of them has much traffic, that wouldn&#8217;t be much help.<br />
I guess it would depend on how much participation you could get and if any of the participants were not totally new and without any of their own traffic.<br />
Regards,<br />
Neil</p>
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		<title>By: Wahab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wahab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get alot emails from individuals and companies on a daily basis on how they can help with generating traffic but, and this a big BUT, they all request for money first. So when i saw your last email to the group it really caught my attention. I have an event search engine company, www.tickethab.com, and I am looking for a cost effective way to get relevant traffic to my site as i am currently not getting a good ROI from my paid search engine campaign efforts. The only company that generating revenue from my current efforts is Google not tickethab.com. So Mark if you are willing to teach us on how built some self-reinforcing links, alot of us are willing to listen, learn and put in the work required.

You have my attention now Mark so lets use this opportunity to build a long and sustained relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get alot emails from individuals and companies on a daily basis on how they can help with generating traffic but, and this a big BUT, they all request for money first. So when i saw your last email to the group it really caught my attention. I have an event search engine company, <a href="http://www.tickethab.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tickethab.com</a>, and I am looking for a cost effective way to get relevant traffic to my site as i am currently not getting a good ROI from my paid search engine campaign efforts. The only company that generating revenue from my current efforts is Google not tickethab.com. So Mark if you are willing to teach us on how built some self-reinforcing links, alot of us are willing to listen, learn and put in the work required.</p>
<p>You have my attention now Mark so lets use this opportunity to build a long and sustained relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I am stuck on the term Riff Raff.  If by that you mean competition or someone not selling what you feel is a viable product it seems it blows away your concept of putting people with people that want what they offer.  Isn’t that why you build a list?  
Then there is the idea of timing. What you want today you may fulfill today and then you don’t want it.  Then tomorrow rolls around and you need something that was riff raff or Spam yesterday.    Also what is Spam when it comes to marketing your product?  Only sending out unsolicited offers.  Opening up a list to any and all takers invites someone not wanting an air conditioner to be contacted by an air conditioner marketer.  Products like that are only on your want list every 3 to 15 years depending on the type of air conditioner.  Researching your market and targeting those people is mostly done by shot gunning (Spaming) Like ads in the newspaper or flyers in the mail.  May be you could send out a questionnaire and ask your list what types of information they would like to be sent.  Then today it wouldn’t be Spam but what about tomorrow? Hmmmmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I am stuck on the term Riff Raff.  If by that you mean competition or someone not selling what you feel is a viable product it seems it blows away your concept of putting people with people that want what they offer.  Isn’t that why you build a list?<br />
Then there is the idea of timing. What you want today you may fulfill today and then you don’t want it.  Then tomorrow rolls around and you need something that was riff raff or Spam yesterday.    Also what is Spam when it comes to marketing your product?  Only sending out unsolicited offers.  Opening up a list to any and all takers invites someone not wanting an air conditioner to be contacted by an air conditioner marketer.  Products like that are only on your want list every 3 to 15 years depending on the type of air conditioner.  Researching your market and targeting those people is mostly done by shot gunning (Spaming) Like ads in the newspaper or flyers in the mail.  May be you could send out a questionnaire and ask your list what types of information they would like to be sent.  Then today it wouldn’t be Spam but what about tomorrow? Hmmmmm</p>
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